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akadi81 |
I was playing around with CalDAV/CardDAV servers in the last period and i think Radicale or BaiKal server will be great addition for directadmin. I found Radicale slow after 20k entries in addressbook. But it's normal because all the files are stored in one folder. Baikal from Sabre is using mysql, it seems to be a more convenient solution. For every email address one calendar and one addressbook should be created.
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Jack Toering
DirectAdmin needs to implement CardDAV and CalDAV natively even if it doesn't support WebDAV. It's absolutely costing you customers. These are the reasons why.
- *DAV is currently the only ETF-standard's based protocol to share contact and calendar information across user devices, and between users, without being tied to a vendor, ecosystem, or subscription, and supports http file sharing. It is well supported across all desktops, mobiles, WebMail via RoundCube and others. There are multiple good and free server processes with support across *NIX and Windows hosting platforms. Today's workforce is mobile, and they need to readily share and update contact and calendar information as well as have their own contacts. It needs to be available across their multiple devices and instantly portable to new devices. This situation is even common across families even if they are are only 2 people.
- ActiveSync is no longer the standard in the industry for sharing contact, calendar, and task information except at Microsoft. Even Google has dropped it. *DAV has taken that crown and has had it for quite a while.
- CardDAV and CalDAV have compatible webmail client RoundCube. Desktop clients include the FOSS Thunderbird, which is already superior to Outlook, and runs across Windows, Mac, and Linux. *DAV works with Android and IOS email, calendar, and task clients.
- Thunderbird is an email client have brought together every piece necessary to function in a multi-device integrated environment, and the only email desktop client that does, at any price. It works across Windows, Mac, and Linux. Unlike Outlook, it supports OAuth 2.0, making 2FA on public email providers a lot easier. Unlike the useless native anti-spam in Outlook, it has user-friendly and effective Bayesian filtering. There is only so much you can do at the server and user levels because one man's spam is another man's ham. When it classifies the email, it is sorting out the spam from the ham for the mobile devices. After working with Thunderbird's tabbed interface, going back to Outlook is like going back to a non-tabbed browser.
- ActiveSync and Microsoft 365 Family or Business or with 3rd Party ActiveSync simply doesn't have the flexibility to support what was just mentioned. 365 Family doesn't share between users. 365 Business can share between employees but setup and maintenance requires a degree in computer mysteries. Sharing with family members is not practically possible. *DAV can easily handle any and all of these.
- Outlook for Windows, even though free to me, has become more infuriating with every release. For anyone managing multiple IMAP accounts it is utter nonsense because it doesn't support unified folders in Windows, even though users by the millions have been screaming for it for the past 10 years. It's only good for those with 1 email account synced to Microsoft 365. OAuth has been an IETF since 2010 and greatly simplified authenticated email access as supported by public email services but is not supported by Outlook. In new versions of Outlook, you can't even configure email account settings in one place anymore. Outlook's global search has been gone for a long time and its search horizon has become less and less. Today, you can't even rely on search working for a single folder with its very common indexing issues. Outlook also does not natively support *DAV.
- This is the age of VPNs, with people wearing multiple hats and working with multiple companies, etc. and *DAV is the cheapest, easiest, most flexible, and AFAIK the only standards-based way to achieve that. For web hosting, pushing the email to Microsoft 365 or Google is not the answer and more complicated to maintain.
- None of this is theory on my part. This is where I live. People have several email accounts and people who buy hosting often have multiple domains. Customers have been asking for it on the DirectAdmin forums since 2011. I have 3 permanent licenses of my own but forced to buy cPanel hosting to get what I need to have maintainable contact, calendar, and task lists across my own devices and to share across my business and family. In the past, DirectAdmin implemented everything of any significance that cPanel did, and did it better. This omission is difficult to understand when it is such a crying need for it and DirectAdmin customer admins can implement it manually. However, until it is a supported part of of the DirectAdmin install, it makes it uneconomical for web hosting companies to support it.
Vermium Sifell
Yes pleaseee, Calendar would be amzaing
KRSEGUROS SRL
It is a pity not to have a calendar in roundcube in directadmin